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作者: goldman948 时间: 2009-8-27 23:07
标题: Wolfenstein两大悲剧
1.MP简直可以说是残废,亏我还为MP买Z版

2.不用PX用HAVOK ,连块布都跟石头一样无法穿过

作者: 陶仁贤 时间: 2009-8-28 10:35
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作者: overkill 时间: 2009-8-28 10:37
我近期在争取装机玩FPS呃，楼主不要打击我呃。。

痒这个游戏很久了。

虽然我承认ID和RAVEN已经该倒闭了。

作者: 什么？ 时间: 2009-8-28 11:07
关Havok什么事，这块布料ID根本就没有为其添加布料运动的物理参数

先看Havok物理表现去看暗黑三视频吧，刚体碰撞、气体、流体、布料的效果都很棒

作者: goldman948 时间: 2009-8-28 12:55

关Havok什么事，这块布料ID根本就没有为其添加布料运动的物理参数

先看Havok物理表现去看暗黑三视频吧，刚体碰撞、气体、流体、布料的效果都很棒
什么？发表于 2009-8-28 11:07

为何跟havok有关?很简单,因为现在的havok是cpu ony,所以用havok不会看到很高阶的物理表现
,因为考虑到中低阶cpu,所以havok在游戏中的表现明显比支持gpu加速的px来的阳春很多.
暗黑三那物理我个人目前还是保留,视频要做的多漂亮都可以.

to 3L,不要期待这游戏的MP能跟RTCW或是RTCW ET相比,完全不能比,差的太遥远

作者: 孙仲陵 时间: 2009-8-28 14:44
本帖最后由孙仲陵于 2009-8-28 14:47 编辑

ATiRV770以上显卡不是支持havok吗？

而且暗黑3和星际2都运用了havok加速啊

作者: goldman948 时间: 2009-8-28 15:12

不要转移话题, 布不能穿过关havok什么事?
Gartour 发表于 2009-8-28 14:56

我已经回得很清楚了,你还看不懂我也没办法
如果你想找麻烦您自个玩

作者: shoppingwang 时间: 2009-8-29 14:42

为何跟havok有关?很简单,因为现在的havok是cpu ony,所以用havok不会看到很高阶的物理表现
,因为考虑到中低阶cpu,所以havok在游戏中的表现明显比支持gpu加速的px来的阳春很多.
暗黑三那物理我个人目前还是保留, ...
goldman948 发表于 2009-8-28 12:55

HAVOK是考虑到了中低端CPU...
但是PX用CUDA考虑过中低端显卡吗？

作者: 卟嗳 时间: 2009-8-29 14:44
本帖最后由卟嗳于 2009-8-29 14:46 编辑

和HAVOK什么关系..游戏是否要确认在某些物体上添加物理引擎计算参数也是要根据情况的..

毕竟所有玩家平台并不能一致.其CPU对于物理计算的强度也不同...

作者: goldman948 时间: 2009-8-29 16:07

HAVOK是考虑到了中低端CPU...
但是PX用CUDA考虑过中低端显卡吗？
shoppingwang 发表于 2009-8-29 14:42

cpu运行比较大规模的物理运算的速度相当慢,远远不如gpu,
即便是很高档的cpu跑用到大量物理运算的px游戏速度还是很慢
中低端就更不用说了.
支持gpu加速的px在目前的游戏来看,只要250/9800gtx就有不错的
速度,就目前而言,px是最完美的物理方案, 支持纯cpu也支持gpu
反观现在havok,只支持cpu,所以游戏商都不敢规模比较大的运算,大多
只是用布娃娃或是简单的物件碰撞,等到havok支持gpu的版本出现,才可能和
px一较长短

作者: AZ7 时间: 2009-8-29 16:59
好久没玩过了

作者: 来力 时间: 2009-8-29 17:10
此游戏居然是MP有AA而SP没有，此乃最悲剧的地方，没有之一。

作者: airforce18 时间: 2009-8-29 17:11
对于KVIP来说 NV的东西怎么样都是好的 AMD的东西都是垃圾

作者: thitara 时间: 2009-8-29 17:41
此游戏最大的悲剧在于跑动的时候晃得我想吐。。

作者: whateveru 时间: 2009-8-29 17:51
HAVOK。。。好像飞到半空掉下来那几下子有点感觉

作者: airforce18 时间: 2009-8-29 19:21
SORRY 在我看来你从来没贬低过NV 却对AMD从来没有过称赞

作者: 欧阳辰 时间: 2009-8-29 19:25

SORRY 在我看来你从来没贬低过NV 却对AMD从来没有过称赞
airforce18 发表于 2009-8-29 19:21

你倒说了句大实话...

AMD在K婶眼里,是不入流的.

作者: lokwing 时间: 2009-8-29 20:10

我近期在争取装机玩FPS呃，楼主不要打击我呃。。

痒这个游戏很久了。

虽然我承认ID和RAVEN已经该倒闭了。
overkill 发表于 2009-8-28 10:37

ID是不会倒闭的

作者: westlee 时间: 2009-8-29 21:09
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作者: westlee 时间: 2009-8-29 21:17
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作者: kakushou 时间: 2009-8-30 00:16
标准骨头贴。。。。。。。。。

鉴定终鸟。。。。。。。。

作者: JoshuaChang 时间: 2009-8-30 00:20

等这个时候到了的时候
physx还有没有都成问题
我现在看到的就是低运算量时physx毫无优势，在havox压倒性的市场占有率面前不值一提
高运算量的physx游戏都是拼命堆积运算量的渣，没一个能称得上是大作的，纯粹就 ...
stcshy_2 发表于 2009-8-30 00:16

看懂你的意思了，因为玫瑰花插在牛粪上，所以显然比不上插在高贵花瓶里的牵牛花，嗯嗯

作者: JoshuaChang 时间: 2009-8-30 00:22
貌似帝国3是physx啊，原来帝国已经沦落牛粪级别了……

作者: 7800gt 时间: 2009-8-30 00:55
i+n两样都有为什么要二手的a+a

作者: westlee 时间: 2009-8-30 09:32
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作者: jocover 时间: 2009-8-30 09:55
可能ID考虑CPU性能关系，没设置布料参数，Cloth还是比较适合GPU来跑

作者: fuxingchina 时间: 2009-8-30 09:56
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作者: fuxingchina 时间: 2009-8-30 09:57
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作者: fuxingchina 时间: 2009-8-30 10:12
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作者: lightingmouse 时间: 2009-8-30 10:26

貌似帝国3是physx啊，原来帝国已经沦落牛粪级别了……
JoshuaChang 发表于 2009-8-30 00:22

这位同志无间了。。。。帝国3是彻彻底底的Havok 不信可以去翻工作室的资料

基本上大作都是Havok啦门槛低应用多架构优秀物理性能虽然差但是对于目前的游戏绝对够用了

说到底一款游戏好不好玩绝对不是靠物理这种噱头就能决定的~ 把大量精力投在这个地方忘记了游戏本身那才真要命

作者: fuxingchina 时间: 2009-8-30 10:31
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作者: ft5555 时间: 2009-8-30 10:50
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作者: westlee 时间: 2009-8-30 11:00
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作者: jocover 时间: 2009-8-30 11:07
aoe3 windows版是用havok mac版是physx

作者: shoppingwang 时间: 2009-8-30 13:49
AOE3推出时PHYSX还没诞生吧
当年就是以HAVOK作卖点在推销的

作者: lokwing 时间: 2009-8-30 20:37
这个游戏是OPENGL的，不是DX，所以不支持physx！

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