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作者: Edison 时间: 2010-5-28 10:19
标题: HPC 厂商 SGI 有可能抛弃 NVIDIA
http://www.theinquirer.net/

HPC vendors are ready to dump Nvidia

Exclusive Time to look at alternatives

By Lawrence Latif
Thu May 27 2010, 08:59

DESIGNER OF HOT GRAPHICS CHIPS Nvidia will pay a price for its folly with Fermi, as high performance computing (HPC) vendors are starting to look elsewhere for GPUs.
The INQUIRER can reveal that HPC icon Silicon Graphics International (SGI) has been looking at alternatives to Nvidia's Fermi line of graphics processing and floating-point computing GPGPU boards to offer customers in its servers. Presumably the Silicon Valley vendor, which is trying hard to rebuild itself from the ashes of two bankruptcies, wants to offer customers an energy efficient alternative.

SGI's senior director of server product marketing, Bill Mannel told The INQUIRER that he believes that Nvidia's rival chip design outfit AMD is "catching up very quickly" with its ATI brand of graphics chips. ATI's high end GPGPU cards are only barely nosed out by Nvidia's Fermi based Tesla boards in some applications. Mannel said he expects there to be "even performance capability" between AMD/ATI and Nvidia within the next 18 months.

When asked whether Nvidia's power hungry chip poses problems for the HPC vendor, Mannel said that incorporating Tesla boards in the firm's designs creates an "additional amount of work" and that the firm had to design new processes to test the Green Goblin's latest "hot cards".

The effect of these hot cards is stark, according to Mannel, who says that it leads to a "worse failure profile" in servers, meaning that vendors such as SGI have to spend more on design, manufacturing and maintenance. To accommodate Tesla boards Mannel said that SGI and its customers have had to "scale up the cooling infrastructure" to meet the higher ambient temperature demands in HPC data centres due to the additional heat output of the hardware.
When it comes to HPC and servers, cooling doesn't merely end with venting hot air out of the rack. Cooling the entire computer processing facility is just as vital to avoid a Fermi furnace and contributes significantly to HPC data centre costs. According to Mannel the heat challenges of the earlier generation of Tesla boards were so immense that SGI had to give up on cooling the previous generation of dual socket, dual Tesla designs and decided instead to focus on Fermi based Tesla boards. Perhaps unsurprisingly, Mannel and his team weren't pleased when Nvidia's latest and greatest Tesla cards tipped up.

Mannel said SGI had to forgo Nvidia's "P spec" passive cooling option in favour of the larger "S spec" cooling box. To underscore the formidable heat generation qualities of Fermi, Mannel said that SGI's HPC server cooling configurations vary greatly depending on how the Fermi based Tesla cards "are ganged together".
SGI like all vendors evaluates the hardware before selecting components and configurations it believes will be good fits for its products and customers. According to Mannel, when the firm first evaluated GPGPUs, Nvidia came out on top, but now things are looking rather different.
For SGI a number of options exist, however AMD is looking like the favourite to get the nod. AMD has recently bolstered its GPGPU effort by nabbing the engineer who has been labelled the brains behind Nvidia's HPC push, Manju Hegde, and is expected to renew its efforts to compete with Nvidia in the HPC arena.

SGI is unlikely to dump Nvidia completely, though. After all, the firm has spent millions and worked hard to incorporate the ill-conceived Fermi chips. However it clearly thinks that it needs alternatives so it can attract customers who don't want to rack up huge energy bills to run its servers.

For its part, Nvidia had done exceedingly well in the HPC area with Cuda, however thanks to Fermi it could lose the benefits of the hard work that Hegde put in before jumping ship. After the delays, the scaling back of performance and increases in power consumption and cooling needs, it's no surprise that SGI is looking elsewhere.
SGI might be just the first in a long line of HPC vendors and customers to grow tired of Nvidia's latest GPU chip design debacle. μ

作者: cool_exorcist 时间: 2010-5-28 10:20
看到The INQUIRER几个字，然后就懒得读了

作者: yyzjp 时间: 2010-5-28 10:40
关键还是费米的功耗悲剧。。。

作者: naze 时间: 2010-5-28 11:01
此帖是钓鱼帖看谁入瓮了

作者: ps4 时间: 2010-5-28 11:23
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作者: SnakeLee 时间: 2010-5-28 11:36
不是我无聊，只是想知道上方文Q发的东西为什么总有种指向感啊，有种说不出来的感觉...

作者: 380 时间: 2010-5-28 11:39
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作者: luckissy 时间: 2010-5-28 11:41

等北岛?南岛?

作者: yuno2005 时间: 2010-5-28 11:47
NV该和WD合作，引进WD的GP技术，哈哈

作者: hadeszhang 时间: 2010-5-28 11:51

看到The INQUIRER几个字，然后就懒得读了
cool_exorcist 发表于 2010-5-28 10:20

小白请教：两家不合？

作者: 鱼儿水中游 时间: 2010-5-28 11:51
那个sgi这么说可能是想跟nv讲价吧。

作者: readma 时间: 2010-5-28 12:31

不是我无聊，只是想知道上方文Q发的东西为什么总有种指向感啊，有种说不出来的感觉...
SnakeLee 发表于 2010-5-28 11:36

人家是翻译的，你说原文有指向？

作者: amuly 时间: 2010-5-28 12:43

人家是翻译的，你说原文有指向？
readma 发表于 2010-5-28 12:31

上方A枪要是真的英文水平不行翻译不对，也就算了...是客观原因

可是他明明是主观故意翻译叉掉的。

作者: 380 时间: 2010-5-28 13:01
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作者: 治病救人 时间: 2010-5-28 13:08
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作者: Asuka 时间: 2010-5-28 14:49

不是我无聊，只是想知道上方文Q发的东西为什么总有种指向感啊，有种说不出来的感觉...
SnakeLee 发表于 2010-5-28 11:36

习惯就好，不过读它的东西前最好先看看原文

作者: Asuka 时间: 2010-5-28 14:50

人家是翻译的，你说原文有指向？
readma 发表于 2010-5-28 12:31

它昨天某篇文章，翻译PCGH的，就篡改了原文顺序

作者: ericman 时间: 2010-5-28 15:21
天天YY驱家，其实要感谢呢，周六日驱家不翻译了，这立马就冷清了。那么多英语帝怎没一个坚持来翻译维持论坛氛围的。

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