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标题: FUSION采用古老的K8核心!The heart of AMD’s Llano is K8 [打印本页]

作者: 越光宝盒 时间: 2010-8-27 23:55
标题: FUSION采用古老的K8核心!The heart of AMD’s Llano is K8
Fusion to fight Sandy Bridge with 6-year-old core

Bulldozer is one risky architecture for AMD. At the same time AMD is making its first 32nm CPU on an unproven, new and risky process and the company is making a completely new core, something that it hasn't done for years. When you do both of these things at once, you kind of have a recipe for potential disaster. AMD might get lucky this time and we're hoping that it will have more luck than with its transition to 65nm and the K10 native quad-core. As you probably remember, that transition was anything but smooth.

The most shocking report about the second-to-come Fusion is that the CPU core behind it is the venerable K8. The first Fusion features Bobcat, AMD's answer to the Atom and the Ontario notebook version of that first Fusion is expected early next year.

Let’s go back to the K8. The K8 officially came out on September 23rd 2003 and the first desktop part followed in early 2004. If you do the math this core is more than six years old, and it started at 130nm. Llano is 32nm which means that the transistor size shrunk multiple times and the power consumption went significantly down, but then again, the performance of K8 doesn’t look promising if you know that Llano is supposed to fight the Sandy Bridge monolithic cores. On a related note, this means that the good old K8's die area will be shrunk by a factor of 16 compared to the original chip which launched in 130nm. That's a quite simple way of illustrating the impressive benefits of more advanced production processes.

Sandy Bridge features Intel's second generation Core architecture, supports automatic overclocking and frequency adjustment for both CPU and GPU and K8 certainly doesn’t have that.

AMD might pull out an ace and actually tell the world at later date that the K8 core has been heavily modified and prepared for 2011, but we doubt that they can catch up with six years of CPU development. They simply don’t have enough engineers for that as most of them work on Bobcat and Bulldozer, which are entirely new chips.

Llano looks like a real transitional product that will prove investors that CPU and GPU on one core chip can be done, it will be faster in graphics tasks that Core i 2000 series aka Sandy Bridge. Of course, AMD is already working on the next generation Fusion that has something better than K8 inside. Let’s just say that Bulldozer can easily meet the Radeon 6000 graphics core and in 2012 you can get some decent performance part.

Do we need to remind you that this will be the third time that AMD tries to make Fusion work, just remember the original Fusion and later Swift cores that mysteriously disappeared form AMD's roadmaps. Fusion was promised back in 2006 and it still hasn't arrived.

作者: 越光宝盒 时间: 2010-8-28 00:01
推土机是 AMD的危险建筑。同时AMD将在一个未经证实的，新的和危险的过程中，该公司32纳米CPU是第一次让一个完全新的核心，它的东西已经多年未完成。当你做一次，你种的这些东西都具有潜在的灾难的配方。 AMD公司可能会得到幸运这个时候，我们很希望它有更多比它的过渡到65纳米及K10的原生四核心运气。您可能还记得，那是什么，但平稳过渡。

关于第二个到融合来最令人震惊的报告，是它背后的CPU核心是可敬的K8。山猫的第一个融合的特点，AMD的回答了原子与融合的，首先是安大略省的笔记本版本，预计明年年初。

让我们回到了K8。在K8平台正式开始就2003年9月23日，第一桌面的一部分在2004年初之后。如果你的数学这一核心是超过6岁，它在130纳米开始。拉诺是32纳米，这意味着晶体管的尺寸缩小多次与电力消耗显着下降了，但后来再次，在K8平台表现看来并不乐观，如果你知道亚诺是应该打大口大桥单片核心。在一个相关的说明，这意味着，在美好的旧的K8的芯片面积将由16倍缩小到原来的相比chip which in 130纳米launched。这是一个相当的说明更先进的生产工艺简单的方式令人印象深刻的利益。

桑迪桥采用Intel的第二代Core架构，支持自动超频，频率为CPU和GPU和K8调整当然不存在的。

AMD公司可能会拿出一个王牌，实际上在告诉世人，以后的K8核心一直大量修改，为2011年准备，但我们怀疑他们能赶上6年的CPU发展起来。他们根本不具备的，因为他们大部分山猫和推土机，这完全是新的芯片的工作足够的工程师。

亚诺像一个真正的过渡产品，将证明，在一个CPU和GPU核心芯片可以做到的投资者看来，这将是在图形任务更快，核心2000系列又名我桑迪桥。当然，AMD公司已经着手对下一代的融合是有一定的K8比里面好。让我们只想说，推土机可以轻松满足图形核心的Radeon 6000和2012年你可以得到一些像样的表现。

我们需要提醒你，这将是第三次尝试，使AMD公司的融合工作，只记得原来的融合，后来迅速内核，神秘消失的形式AMD的路线图。融合承诺早在2006年，它仍然没有到来。

作者: amd```fans 时间: 2010-8-28 00:57
我们需要提醒你，这将是第三次尝试，使AMD公司的融合工作，只记得原来的融合，后来迅速内核，神秘消失的形式AMD的路线图。融合承诺早在2006年，它仍然没有到来。

作者: hakase 时间: 2010-8-28 01:31
不会吧。。。

作者: spinup 时间: 2010-8-28 01:33
都啥乱七八糟的.....

第一代fusion有两大类，一种llano，cpu内核基于k10，大概可以算作k8+++。另一种bobcat内核则是基于k6。因为ontario先出，估计这文章说的其实就是bobcat内核。记者可能想不到最新的内核会“返祖”到这个程度。。。。。。

作者: itany 时间: 2010-8-28 01:40

都啥乱七八糟的.....

第一代fusion有两大类，一种llano，cpu内核基于k10，大概可以算作k8+++。另一种bob ...
spinup 发表于 2010-8-28 01:33

对啊，Llano分明K10么

作者: Chris 时间: 2010-8-28 01:44
k8 效率并不低

工艺改进降低功耗和热量的话

也没什么不可

作者: 最弱的ID 时间: 2010-8-28 01:55
Bulldozer + Radeon 6000 graphics core in 2012

great!

作者: 百变狸猫 时间: 2010-8-28 08:54
请不要用机译好吗？看着好别扭的，好歹也自己先读一边再修订一下润润吧~~

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