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标题: EMU新品Tracker Pre USB!! [打印本页]

作者: kingcole    时间: 2008-2-19 09:04
标题: EMU新品Tracker Pre USB!!
1月上市,相当看好这款新品,终于可以USB供电和火牛供电了,就是太难买到了:( 1 u* M, U' K; T4 y+ E

  h2 J/ R4 n# j# ^USB 2.0音频接口,精度达到24bit/192kHz,两个A级XTC话放,带48V幻相供电。% `7 L7 A4 T1 ^7 x4 W% P1 V) J8 k
Tracker Pre USB主要特性:! w$ r: C, r% i. U3 ^, v6 s! B; o

作者: kingcole    时间: 2008-2-19 09:05

8 P# K" A, z5 T3 c! N+ p* H+ `. C+ X1.  Signal Level & Clip Indicators
9 C& [" _. n, _+ V; |1 ZThe LED signal level indicators show that you are inputting a proper signal level. With a proper input level, the green signal LED should be flickering, but the red clip indicator should NOT ever be lit. The clip indicators light and show that the input level has exceeded 0dBFS.
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2.  Left/Right Gain Controls
6 o# _9 Z3 \/ ?! KThese controls set the input gain from 0dB to +60dB for the two inputs. * u* `6 [# N- |) I8 N& m
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This continuous encoder controls the amount of direct monitor signal mixed into the outputs. The level is adjustable from -24dB to off.  ( `' }2 k  T  R2 M' ^4 n" C

) I( ]3 B" o, v4.  Direct Monitor On/Off & Mono-Stereo Switch! P* Z& m* K; i7 K2 n
Press the button once to turn on Direct Monitoring. The stereo LED illuminates. In this mode the left and right channels are passed through to their respective outputs at the level set by the Direct Monitor Level control. Press the button again to switch to Mono Direct Monitoring, which sums the left and right direct monitor channels to mono. Mono mode is useful when the two inputs are being used for separate instruments, or when only one input is being used. : n8 K& u  N# E9 b

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Connect your stereo headphones here.  $ ?+ Q8 C3 A7 a# L0 H
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3 U& E% B1 K9 bThis knob controls the volume of the headphone output. This switch also turns the Tracker Pre on or off. ; N8 M! n/ \! I4 V
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7.  5 VDC Power Adapter (optional)
/ ]- Z( M8 {0 S- e+ Z9 iAlthough the Tracker Pre is normally bus-powered via USB, it can also be powered by an optional 5-Volt DC power adapter to allow it to be used as a stand-alone stereo microphone preamplifier.
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8 f6 @% t9 W! T. ~9 R) S8.  USB
1 G+ v0 ^# A7 I4 }/ E, E0 Q- sConnects the Tracker Pre to your computer via the supplied USB cable. The USB connection provides two-way communication when connected to the computer. Since the Tracker Pre receives its power from the USB, always connect to the USB jack on the computer itself and NOT to a low-power USB connection that may be present on your computer keyboard or other USB peripheral.
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/ s& @  Z! L1 z9.  Main Outputs (1L & 2R)
4 L- V3 q: G0 _6 VThe balanced outputs are normally connected to your monitoring system. Either balanced or unbalanced cables may be used. The main output volume can be controlled using the System Volume Control on your Mac or PC. Many "multimedia" computer keyboards contain System Volume Controls. 2 i' |; `0 G8 K( Y0 S& O
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10.  Phantom Power on/off
- f& I9 q2 V* j+ N& vThis switch turns 48V Phantom Power on or off to the XLR inputs for use with microphones which require phantom power.
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* j/ Q* V' R; \2 O11.  Inserts (1L & 2R); |; _3 Q3 n- H8 N" v
These unbalanced TRS jacks allow you to insert a signal processor, such as a compressor or EQ, after the mic preamps, but before the A/D converter stage. The Insert jacks can also be used to tap off the mic preamp outputs when using the Tracker Pre as a stand-alone stereo microphone preamp. ! N% t( F9 ?4 c* I* j
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Use the XLR connector for microphones or balanced line level signals. Use the 1/4¨ jack in the center of the XLR connector as a Hi-Z input for guitar/bass, or as a line level input. The inputs are balanced, but they accept either balanced or unbalanced input signals.
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13.  Stereo Mic Input
( v* f9 T1 n  b2 T5 xThis 1/8" mini-phone jack is designed to accept a stereo, electret condenser microphone. The jack supplies +5VDC phantom power. Mono microphones can also be connected and will use input 1L. Note: The Stereo Mic jack takes precedence over the Hi-Z/Mic/Line inputs. Inserting a 1/8" plug disables the other inputs.
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  Ground Lift Switches
- ^$ F1 I1 S* g' I9 Y! EThere are "ground lift" switches for both analog 1/4" inputs located on the bottom of the unit. These switches can be used to safely stop the hum if a ground loop occurs in your setup.
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作者: kingcole    时间: 2008-2-19 09:07
Technical Specifications 8 n8 b6 i  E# F1 r
General 8 W  c8 t5 K& [$ Y+ [: i
   Sample Rates: 44.1, 48, 88.2, 96, 176.4, 192kHz from internal crystal (no sample rate conversion)* ! X5 g; W4 G& q% V. S% j, l
   Bit Depth: 24-bit I/O, 32-bit processing
+ F  H  {/ }4 E$ _, G, g+ j   USB 2.0 Hi-Speed
4 U" Z4 u5 O( d+ g$ t    - Full 24-bit resolution at all sample rates
1 `# _, C5 ?! {" v# u* |* [ - Stereo in, stereo out at all sample rates 6 \7 t; j3 \1 h) @* `7 N3 l
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   Zero-latency direct hardware monitoring (disabled at 176.4-192kHz) ) l7 W8 p- @% H. ]
   Windows drivers: ASIO2 and WDM
1 ^3 k- N6 z8 t- D1 `! z, Q; e   Macintosh driver: Apple CoreAudio
1 @8 p8 {# M# T1 u$ J6 Q" P3 {/ @   Anti-Pop speaker protection minimizes noise during power on/off
8 a+ v9 g' G- D( G; N* S   Ultra-low jitter clock subsystem: < 100ps RMS 5 j# U! J/ m: {( z1 ~7 h& F' E4 I
   USB Bus or AC powered via optional Universal Power Supply " ?+ U: A& X1 I5 ?# Q3 f3 {
Combo Preamplifiers (2)
' A4 q4 o$ R" t* i   Type: E-MU&reg; CurrentMorph™ combo mic preamp and Hi-Z/line input ; E4 k' [6 w( z
   A/D converter: AK5385 ) Y' e, \7 ]+ C: `. q
   Max Level: +6.4dBV bal/unbal (+6.9 dBu) . G9 v& ]6 W8 h7 I/ p! V! Y
    - Hi-Z/line balanced input: +6.9dBV bal/unbal (+9.1dBu) 3 U/ |+ r! k2 Y" o0 }$ M, L1 f& k
- Microphone Preamplifier: +6.4dBV bal/unbal (+8.6dBu)
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$ s( v; Q; A+ O4 m7 B: W   Frequency Response (min gain, 20Hz-20kHz): +0.0/-0.03dB ! q- T5 `% Z0 X: r  C0 `9 v: f
   Dynamic Range (A-weighted, 1kHz, min gain): 112dB
1 U' P( e  @  Y/ r   Signal-to-Noise Ratio (A-weighted, min gain): 112dB
- ^6 Y; i/ p% \9 [$ M  T   THD+N (1kHz at - 1dBFS, min gain): -102dB (.0007%) + Q% M: T) n, y4 F7 r( G
   EIN (20Hz-20kHz, 150ohm, unweighted): -127dBu ; A5 k( ~  a$ J8 z/ n- W
   Input Impedance # Z/ h% \) ^& n* @: R" y+ y
    - Hi-Z/line balanced input: 1Mohm
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5 ?9 f5 e& _+ [2 |& O/ e0 y6 t" `Analog Line Outputs (2)6 t2 m( _% k) Z5 ^; [! c
   Type: balanced, AC-coupled, 2-pole low-pass differential filter
  S4 p) h+ s! [2 n- m   D/A converter: CS4392
: U+ l- h3 ~0 p( r, I) e   Max Level: 6.6 dBV (unbalanced)
( v! ^' P, d) f6 [   Frequency Response (20Hz - 20kHz): 0.00/-0.08dB $ E) b! \7 X$ u+ W$ e* E
   Dynamic Range (1kHz, A-weighted): 112dB 3 H+ X& Z8 K1 n$ L3 P
   Signal-to-Noise Ratio (A-weighted): 112dB
; F" q7 H1 M+ e( b6 e   THD+N (1kHz at -1dBFS): -99dB (.0011%) / R3 a% C) P/ O+ ^% b' m
   Stereo Crosstalk (1kHz at -1dBFS): <-111dB
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   Type: Class-A power amplifier   D; P/ v/ ^+ s; e. r( |$ D  T1 T' H. G
   D/A converter: CS4392 (shared with Line Out)
7 S7 ]0 ~( P: z$ e; E   Gain Range: 60dB 6 `  s" H# ]; J# X8 j
   Maximum Output Power: 22mW
* d9 m6 Y) _/ M% {' Y, Y   Output Impedance: 22ohms ) g9 V3 p8 l$ z
   Frequency Response (20Hz-20kHz): +0.02/-0.07dB
2 y. c$ b1 r$ y& m   Dynamic Range (A-weighted): 112dB 6 [% Z  s: c& E$ Z. [
   Signal-to-Noise Ratio (A-weighted): 112dB % P3 o9 J: ]) L* V* z  x
   THD+N (1kHz, max gain): 300ohm load: -99dB (.0011%)
* Q7 d3 _9 d) c' ^2 K   Stereo Crosstalk (1kHz at -1dBFS, 300 ohm load): <-90dB
7 q; E: ?5 Z! \; x& rSynchronization
% ?6 s7 R8 p% Q0 |/ k   Internal crystal sync at 44.1, 48, 88.2, 96, 176.4, 192kHz*
; v7 n- k# d+ T7 S3 D* Macintosh operation up to 96kHz only at this time - check www.emu.com for updates : Q, ?" L0 X. d* E
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Retail Box Contents
! z8 y0 i6 q( U  t# [1 K2 _* `( m   E-MU Tracker Pre USB 2.0 Audio Interface 5 T8 ?+ M/ P+ r* y# q$ o, P; c
   USB cable (2 meters)
: j0 n8 A+ C: _2 h: y   Installation Guide # f' Z. Y" ~4 k; ?( d
   E-MU Software/Manual Installation CD-ROM (OS X /Windows)
+ ?0 z6 {* F/ P$ d    - Windows XP, Windows x64, Windows Vista, Windows Vista x64 Drivers
: Y$ {# v" K% }6 |3 e0 ?- a - Mac OS X 10.4, Mac OS X 10.5 Drivers
& A& S# V: |0 f6 Y3 A! }7 F" i - Owner's Manual and Tutorials
* d# d1 B8 B' T& N. P& Z - Adobe Acrobat Reader (Windows only)
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   E-MU Production Tools Software Bundle DVD (OS X /Windows) ( a& @, T. ]1 ^. l( C
    - Windows Applications 5 l. n, F2 M; `: T8 m4 ^
    - E-MU Proteus VX (with over 1000 sounds)
1 _* q5 I2 t! h3 ]1 X/ I   - Cakewalk Sonar 6 LE
) c0 e, S+ y6 @, k& w4 Z   - Steinberg Cubase LE4
2 U1 k0 r0 O: g8 [* L1 G   - Celemony Melodyne essential
0 h! \8 Z% A4 g, J   - IK Multimedia AmpliTube Duo ) ?! l! F: k( v. i2 s6 O
   - SFX Machine LT
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, G% e* A( L& r0 y. [ - OS X Applications ' f  t1 p4 o- W; u7 U$ B, S+ m
    - Steinberg Cubase LE4
: l. Q7 [9 ~4 {: S: M   - BIAS Peak Express 5
" y% h# o- j/ q4 T   - Celemony Melodyne essential $ t, }8 q: |9 M3 F
   - IK Multimedia AmpliTube LE
' ~* O, U9 `0 M   - SFX Machine LT   y9 N1 C8 U3 `! |( ?

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4 ^' `, x& I7 A   Ableton Live Lite 6 E-MU Edition CD-ROM (OS X, Windows)
5 `+ B) S* ^2 b9 S0 g) d    - Ableton Live Lite 6 E-MU Edition 7 y6 l8 W. T( B2 ]2 Y+ D
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   Waldorf Edition LE CD-ROM (OS X, Windows)
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# n  m9 m: X' N1 C, G# Q8 ~; @ Minimum System Requirements 2 Y) L" V% B/ C# O5 D' Z
Windows:
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1 g4 J, t% O4 Z. v9 T& A% p   Intel&reg; or AMD&reg; processor - 1.2 GHz or faster
! c  Z6 [0 W5 F- V6 p   Intel, AMD, or 100% compatible motherboard & chipset ! {( k# }: M5 V3 g$ j; M
   Microsoft&reg; Windows&reg; XP (SP 2 or greater), Windows XP x64, Windows Vista, or Windows Vista x64 0 |$ B4 v5 H6 @: s! m
   1 available (Hi-Speed) USB 2.0 port * * I! W/ U& I8 }8 g8 m$ Y  b% }
   512 MB System RAM . [: S) |6 k- c& A7 ~
   900 MB of free hard disk space for full installation 2 @$ `& A/ S5 K4 H
   CD-ROM/CD-RW drive required for software installation
+ f, N% k$ [/ |$ D  N   DVD-ROM drive required for bundled software installation
( r8 Y8 V) u1 b' I$ J9 s: Z- y   XVGA Video (1024 X 768)
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- @3 R: D5 U0 t   Apple&reg; Macintosh&reg; G4 800 MHz G4 compatible or Intel-based processor
7 i1 H2 t- a+ x* y/ O   Apple Macintosh OS X (10.4.3 or greater)
  A/ K$ |3 \+ w$ }( d9 Q, W   1 Available (Hi-Speed) USB 2.0 port †
, i0 `8 g, x1 a/ ~+ i   512 MB System RAM
. ~. }3 H. _: @# R4 Y   500 MB of free hard disk space for full installation 3 q  B5 C7 X  u" C
   CD-ROM/CD-RW drive required for software installation 8 Q8 m/ N. f8 ]8 f
   DVD-ROM drive required for bundled software installation , h/ z2 c/ {4 I' V/ \( `
   XVGA Video (1024 X 768)
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* When connecting the Tracker Pre to a USB 1.1 port on a Windows PC, performance is limited to 16-bit and 44.1/48 kHz recording and playback.9 W& w( J" t# w# M: C
† USB 1.1 is not supported on the Macintosh
作者: kingcole    时间: 2008-2-19 09:20
官方报价:USD 149.99
0 E% g; U& q9 `个人认为在这个价位的USB DAC,就算EMU的这几款不错了,起码用的是自己开发的接收芯片和驱动。下图是0202的内部图,Tracker Pre USB 应该就是只改动了一下话放与接口,核心是一样的
: X9 u$ p: q# `# l:lol: 这回要力捧一下EMU了:loveliness:
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0 k# G9 F! ]3 d1 o: ~[ 本帖最后由 kingcole 于 2008-2-19 09:21 编辑 ]
作者: 乔治亚斯    时间: 2008-2-19 09:22
我想说一句:真丑
作者: kingcole    时间: 2008-2-19 09:23
RightMark Audio Analyzer test report
Testing deviceE-MU 0202 | USB
Sampling mode16-bit, 44 kHz
InterfaceMME
Testing chainExternal loopback (line-out - line-in)
RMAA Version6.0.5
20 Hz - 20 kHz filterON
Normalize amplitudeON
Mono modeOFF
Calibration singal, Hz1000
Polarity inverted/inverted

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Frequency response (from 40 Hz to 15 kHz), dB
+0.01, -0.09
Excellent
Noise level, dB (A)
-96.0
Excellent
Dynamic range, dB (A)
96.4
Excellent
THD, %
0.0010
Excellent
THD + Noise, dB (A)
-89.4
Good
IMD + Noise, %
0.0046
Excellent
Stereo crosstalk, dB
-97.9
Excellent
IMD at 10 kHz, %
0.0049
Excellent
General performance4 m6 G, I. o. y7 {
Excellent
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Frequency response[img=512,315]mhtml:file://I:音响资料07.1.220404USBRightMark Audio Analyzer test  [MME] E-MU 0202  USB 16-44.1.mht![/img] 0 {1 \: \, `: W
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From 20 Hz to 20 kHz, dB
-0.24, +0.01
From 40 Hz to 15 kHz, dB
-0.09, +0.01
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/ ^0 o% W5 x0 n6 w. C" Y0 J$ t4 K0 |Noise level[img=512,315]mhtml:file://I:音响资料07.1.220404USBRightMark Audio Analyzer test  [MME] E-MU 0202  USB 16-44.1.mht![/img] : r/ Q& I& W% @6 n
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Left
Right
RMS power, dB
-94.8
-94.9
RMS power (A-weighted), dB
-96.0
-96.0
Peak level, dB FS
-87.3
-83.3
DC offset, %
-0.0
-0.0
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Left
Right
Dynamic range, dB
+95.3
+95.3
Dynamic range (A-weighted), dB
+96.4
+96.4
DC offset, %
-0.00
-0.00
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Left
Right
THD, %
+0.0010
+0.0009
THD + Noise, %
+0.0036
+0.0036
THD + Noise (A-weighted), %
+0.0034
+0.0033

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1 w; G8 _) y. C# T! HIntermodulation distortion[img=512,315]mhtml:file://I:音响资料07.1.220404USBRightMark Audio Analyzer test  [MME] E-MU 0202  USB 16-44.1.mht![/img]
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Left
Right
IMD + Noise, %
+0.0046
+0.0046
IMD + Noise (A-weighted), %
+0.0038
+0.0037
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Stereo crosstalk[img=512,315]mhtml:file://I:音响资料07.1.220404USBRightMark Audio Analyzer test  [MME] E-MU 0202  USB 16-44.1.mht![/img]
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Left
Right
Crosstalk at 100 Hz, dB
-101
-98
Crosstalk at 1000 Hz, dB
-98
-96
Crosstalk at 10000 Hz, dB
-90
-91
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Right
IMD + Noise at 5000 Hz,
0.0051
0.0050
IMD + Noise at 10000 Hz,
0.0047
0.0048
IMD + Noise at 15000 Hz,
0.0047
0.0049

作者: kingcole    时间: 2008-2-19 09:24
原帖由 乔治亚斯 于 2008-2-19 09:22 发表 - U! u2 B! p0 W1 Z" T3 _
我想说一句:真丑

5 w6 c4 ]1 h: u% b* q0 _- i1 U:lol: 虽然我很丑,但是我很温柔
作者: garou    时间: 2008-2-19 09:44
外置声卡测试成绩就是强啊~
作者: kovaco    时间: 2008-2-19 10:12
丑陋,指标不高,测试成绩平庸。。。。
作者: 乔治亚斯    时间: 2008-2-19 10:15
原帖由 kingcole 于 2008-2-19 09:24 发表
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:lol: 虽然我很丑,但是我很温柔
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5 ]1 M# H" x8 z原来王子喜欢温柔的:rolleyes:
作者: kingcole    时间: 2008-2-19 10:24
标题: 回复 10# 的帖子
:loveliness: 正确来说是喜欢温柔乡
作者: kingcole    时间: 2008-2-19 10:25
标题: 回复 9# 的帖子
这个价位的USB声卡有这个指标应该算不错了
作者: 乔治亚斯    时间: 2008-2-19 10:45
原帖由 kingcole 于 2008-2-19 10:24 发表
$ R7 w& M/ d$ _" G. _) B6 }:loveliness: 正确来说是喜欢温柔乡

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:funk: 飘过。。。。。。。。。。。。。
作者: terryddb    时间: 2008-2-19 14:01
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作者: kingcole    时间: 2008-2-19 14:17
标题: 回复 14# 的帖子
还不是因为我的本本没有火线接口~~~郁闷~~:( 要么换本本,要么换声卡
作者: flz821028    时间: 2008-2-19 15:06
阿焦上:loveliness:
作者: chenminxp    时间: 2008-2-19 15:17
原帖由 flz821028 于 2008-2-19 15:06 发表
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他还好意思出来:w00t):
作者: sd-iori    时间: 2008-2-19 18:33
不如直接上0202
作者: H3O    时间: 2008-2-19 19:00
midifan有得买哦~
作者: kingcole    时间: 2008-2-20 00:04
原帖由 sd-iori 于 2008-2-19 18:33 发表 ' q( b4 c  Q3 x% _
不如直接上0202

) l: T0 R$ N: X7 {' ?  k/ P) iTracker Pre USB是0202的升级版本
作者: endless    时间: 2008-2-20 11:18
看上这个做测试声卡了~?
作者: kingcole    时间: 2008-2-20 14:42
标题: 回复 21# 的帖子
不是做测试,纯粹用来接本本听歌的,测试我有专用声卡SB0270了:loveliness:
作者: 乔治亚斯    时间: 2008-2-20 14:58
:lol: 接本本听歌还是用DAC1USB吧
作者: kingcole    时间: 2008-2-20 16:00
作为声卡,DAC1USB我觉得不是个好选择,至少在驱动方面没有声卡大厂的做得好,做DAC倒是没得说的,总感觉DAC 1 USB上的USB接口仅是一个附加的接口而已,决绝不是戏玉
作者: sd-iori    时间: 2008-2-20 17:59
原帖由 kingcole 于 2008-2-20 00:04 发表
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/ P* ~  T+ `+ N那个话放,,对我作用不大,,
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作者: 伊仑    时间: 2008-2-20 23:03
这玩意直接插话筒的话,录音音质如何?
作者: kingcole    时间: 2008-2-21 16:51
标题: 回复 25# 的帖子
:lol: 那就0202吧~~~~~
作者: bageda    时间: 2008-2-21 22:38
看起来不错呢。         :)
作者: kaltmond    时间: 2008-2-22 02:23
EMU啊EMU, 你什么时候出Expresscard的1616M啊。。。。。。
作者: 镇雨    时间: 2008-2-22 13:03
落香港走转应该有得买噶.' U# V3 @: V# i& j3 E- f, u5 M
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外置牛可以打摸下参数应该更加好.如果你要买我叫我HK个朋友帮你稳下.应该都悟贵噶.:p
作者: kingcole    时间: 2008-2-22 14:59
原帖由 镇雨 于 2008-2-22 13:03 发表 % _! W2 h# g) ?$ t
落香港走转应该有得买噶.7 H! }7 E. W- o3 j3 `, A

; k# G! ?2 F; j: I  ?5 @外置牛可以打摸下参数应该更加好.如果你要买我叫我HK个朋友帮你稳下.应该都悟贵噶.:p

1 m! s- U* o" A% T$ A是就最好了,不妨叫你朋友帮手问问,我真的想买一个




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