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Windows 7 series: NVIDIA and AMD Graphics and Gaming Performance

A preview of Windows 7 gaming

Introduction

Though officially in beta, Windows 7 is probably the most talked about subject in the world of PC technology today.  Released to the public on January 7th, 2009, Windows 7 has quickly found its way onto many computers including netbooks, laptops, virtual machines and even gaming and enthusiast PCs.  Users that were once distrusting of Vista and even Mac-lovers have spent the last few months complementing Microsoft of their latest operating system and for good reason: it slick, fast, visually appealing and runs on all ranges of hardware quite nicely.  Here in my office I have installed it on an Eee PC, a separate hard drive in my main system, my MacBook Pro (gasp!), the NVIDIA ION platform and a couple of benchmarking and testing rigs as well.

This article will be the first in a series of performance and feature reviews on Windows 7 that will be updated and added to up through the final retail release of the Windows 7 operating system; whenever that might be.  As the title obviously suggests, today we are going to be looking at GPU and gaming performance on Windows 7 in comparison to Windows Vista.  There are two primary goals with this article: first we would like to see how, in general, performance on this beta version of Windows 7 compares to the performance of gaming on a more mature Vista operating system with Service Pack 1.  Secondly, we would like to compare how both NVIDIA and AMD are doing in terms of driver optimizations and performance for Windows 7 compared to each company's support on Windows Vista.



Windows 7 desktop feature - image from WinSuperSite.com


Now, to assuage some obvious emails we will get from readers and trolls, let me add in a few points.  Yes, I realize that Windows 7 is in beta and as such performance results we get today may not be what we see when the OS is finally released.  It could be faster, it could be slower; that is the exact reason why this will be a SERIES of articles that is update continuously throughout the Windows 7 development cycle.  Once the Release Candidate 1 version of Windows 7 is divulged we will definitely come back to these results to see what changes.  Also, I realize that NVIDIA and AMD drivers might also be considered to be in a "beta" state as well - though not that both parties have WHQL approved drivers available that shouldn't really be too much of an issue.  

A new testing platform

Because we were going to be spending a lot of time redoing benchmarks with Vista and Windows 7 I decided it would be a good time to update the graphics test bed accordingly.  We are now moving away from Core 2 as our platform of choice and on to the world of Nehalem, the Core i7.  Our system is built around an Intel Core i7-920 2.67 GHz processor on an ASUS P6T6 WS Revolution motherboard that sports both the X58 chipset and the NVIDIA nForce 200 chipset with 4 full x16 PCIe 2.0 graphics slots should would test the extreme cases of GPU scaling.  6GB of Corsair DDR3-1600 memory are used as well and a PC Power and Cooling 1200 watt Turbo-Cool power supply keeps everything running 100% stable.  

Test System Setup
CPU
Intel Core i7-920 @ 2.67 GHz
Motherboards
ASUS P6T6 WS Revolution X58 + nForce 200
Memory
Corsair 3 x 2GB DDR3-1600
Hard Drive
Western Digital VelociRaptor 300GB
Sound Card
Sound Blaster Audigy 2 Value
Video Card
GeForce GTS 250 1GB
GeForce GTX 260+ 896MB
GeForce GTX 285 1GB
GeForce GTX 295 1792MB
Radeon HD 4870 512MB
Radeon HD 4870 1GB
Radeon HD 4870 X2 2GB
Video Drivers
NVIDIA: 181.71 and 182.08
AMD: Catalyst 9.3
Power SupplyPC Power and Cooling Turbo-Cool 1200w
DirectX Version
DX10 / DX9c
Operating System
Windows 7 Beta v7000 64-bit
Windows Vista Ultimate 64-bit

Our thanks go out to Corsair for the memory for our test bed, to PC Power and Cooling for the 1200w beast of a PSU for the system and to ASUS for the P6T6 WS Revolution motherboard.

  • Call of Duty: World at War
  • Crysis
  • Far Cry 2
  • Left 4 Dead
  • World in Conflict
  • 3DMark Vantage
One of the keys for this article was our driver selection and it turned out to be more of a pain in the rear than you might think.  If you head over to NVIDIA.com today to get the latest Vista and Windows 7 drivers, you'll notice that they are different versions.  The latest Windows Vista driver is 182.08 while the latest Windows 7 driver is 181.71.  And while the dates on the drivers are the same (March 3rd) it turns out the differences between them are much dramatic than the numbers indicate.  According to NVIDIA, the Windows 7 driver was actually built off of a branch of driver code that split off from the Vista driver branch back in December.  What this essentially means is that many, if not all, of the performance updates that occurred between December and March were NOT included in the Windows 7 driver available online today.  

NVIDIA assures us that a new driver, one that uses the same driver branch as the Windows Vista driver, will be coming sometime in April and from then on out, Vista and Win 7 drivers will be updated in step with each other.  In fact, they will be in a single driver package.  

AMD has actually already achieved this goal: with the release of Catalyst 9.3 all AMD graphics card support for Windows 7 is based on the same driver branch as the company's Windows Vista driver.  A single download will get you both the Vista and Windows 7 driver.

What this all means is that we have to be careful about what comparisons we make.  For example, we shouldn't judge the performance of gaming on Windows Vista against that of Windows 7 using NVIDIA products because for today at least, they are different driver branches and thus aren't apples-to-apples.  We can make that judgment with AMD's Catalyst 9.3 driver however.  That doesn't mean that NVIDIA is off the hook though with their Windows 7 support today though because we still will evaluate what kind of performance an end user would get with Windows 7 on their system TODAY with the drivers available from both NVIDIA and AMD TODAY.


The contendersFor our testing we will be looking at 7 different graphics cards spanning both AMD's and NVIDIA's product lineup starting at the $129 price point and going up to $509.  Cards were chosen due to matches in their competitive pricing as of March 20th and also just to get a wide array of GPU data points.  

Our first comparison (budget label) is between the NVIDIA GeForce GTS 250 1GB graphics card and the AMD Radeon HD 4870 512MB, both priced at or around $135 or so.  


GeForce GTS 250 1GB


Radeon HD 4870 512MB




Next up on the list (mid-range label) is a pair of boards you can find starting at $170 and rounding up at about $195 or so: the GeForce GTX 260+ 896MB and the Radeon HD 4870 1GB cards.  



GeForce GTX 260+ 896MB


Radeon HD 4870 1GB


Going a little more on the expensive side of things, the next comparison (high-end label) will be the GeForce GTX 285 1GB card against the Radeon HD 4870 X2 2GB card.  Now, these GPUs are not priced as closely as the others: the GTX 285 sells for about $320 or so while the 4870 X2 sells for no less than $380.  Keep that price difference in mind as we look over the performance results.  



GeForce GTX 285 1GB


Radeon HD 4870 X2 2GB




Finally, our last comparison (MAX label) looks at the top end cards from both NVIDIA and AMD.  That means that the Radeon HD 4870 X2 2GB will get a second round of results, this time against the much pricier GeForce GTX 295 1796MB graphics cards that sells for around $509 today.



GeForce GTX 295 1792MB


Radeon HD 4870 X2 2GB...again




Testing Methods

Our graphics testing method remained basically unchanged from previous reviews, only this time we were running on both Windows Vista x64 SP1 and Windows 7 x64.  There were NO differences in the game functionality or benchmark functionality between Vista and Win 7, indicating that the transition from Vista to Win 7 should be VERY smooth when you do decide to take the plunge.


  


The selection of games included Call of Duty: World at War, Crysis, Far Cry 2, Left 4 Dead and World in Conflict with a touch of 3DMark Vantage thrown in for good fun.  Three resolutions were tested for each game with each graphics card and each test was run three times to average our scores and eliminate any potential outliers.  Our total test runs: 7 cards x 5 games x 3 resolutions x 3 iterations x 2 operating systems = 630 results.  Carpal tunnel here we come.

You'll no doubt notice that this is a LONG review: 28 pages as I type this.  Each comparison noted above (budget, mid-range, high-end and MAX) has its own result page for each title so you'll see a budget comparison listing for CoD: WaW, Crysis, etc.  In those sections we'll compare how each graphics card's individual performance compares in Vista to Windows 7 today and how each vendor's card compares to the other of similar pricing in both Vista and Windows 7 today.
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本帖最后由 yym 于 2009-4-16 10:30 编辑

Budget: Call of Duty: World at War

Call of Duty: World at War is a WWII-based shooter built on the Call of Duty 4 engine with a little flair added.  The game is unique in the genre as it sets the game at the Pacific stage rather than the much more common, and less controversial, European front.  










Call of Duty: World at War settings


For our testing with CoD: WaW we ran through the level of the game shown above while recording in FRAPS to get our frame rate comparisons below.  The game plays almost exactly like CoD 4 (a good thing) so our testing methods were reliable and repeatable.  



















Our first round of tests proves to be interesting and yet not too exciting at the same time.  For our CoD:WaW testing the Windows 7 performance was on par with the performance on our Windows Vista testing configuration and if nothing else was JUST BARELY faster.  In terms of competition between NVIDIA and AMD, it would appear that the Radeon HD 4870 512MB is a much better value for the dollar at 1600x1200 and 2048x1536 resolutions.  


Budget: Crysis
Crysis (DirectX 10)
Without a doubt the most breath taking game I have seen yet, Crysis is from the developers of Far Cry, yet another title that was ahead of its time.  This game will bring any system to its knees, but look good doing it.









  

Crysis Test Settings




















Again, Windows 7 performance, even in its current beta form, is slightly faster than Windows Vista gaming performance.  Also again we see that the GeForce GTS 250 1GB card is struggling to keep up with the AMD Radeon HD 4870 512MB card.


Budget: Far Cry 2
Far Cry 2 (DirectX 10)


Far Cry 2 is the spiritual sequel to one of the best selling and longest living games on the PC though this title was developed not by Crytek, but by Ubisoft directly using a completely new engine as well.  The game is set in Africa and you have malaria - what else do you need to know?








Far Cry 2 settings


Far Cry 2 includes a great benchmarking utility that allows us to setup for in-game testing of all varieties and includes both the ability to benchmark based on time (variable frame count) or based on speed (fixed frame count) - we went with the time-based option to simulate real-world gaming and allowing for apples-to-apples comparisons.  



















Far Cry 2 is a totally different animal it would seem: performance on both the NVIDIA and AMD graphics cards was worse on Windows 7 than on Windows Vista.  Not only that, but results were wildly unpredictable with the Windows 7 configuration, again with both NVIDIA and AMD solutions.  I think these cards are simply not powerful enough to get all the way through our FC2 benchmark suite; but based on what we see here the performance edge would go to NVIDIA.


Budget: Left 4 Dead
Left 4 Dead (DirectX 9)


Developed by a new team of Valve's, Left 4 Dead is a single or multi-player game that encompasses the most automatic story for a shooter: zombie apocalypse.  The team aspect of the title, based on Valve's Source engine, really makes this a unique gaming experience that I think all PC gamers should be required to play.








  Left 4 Dead settings


The Valve: Source engine supports in-game demos that can be played back as fast as possible (fixed frame count) or in real-time (variable frame count) to simulate a more real-world experience.  I chose the last stage of the Farm House "movie" and played through the cornfield section to get the majority of the level in the FRAPS run through.  



















This is the first time we see a negative result with the different NVIDIA driver versions: the Windows 7 performance is slightly slower on the GTS 250 1GB while the results on the Radeon HD 4870 512MB are basically dead even between the two operating systems.  And again, the AMD solution appears to be the better value for your gaming dollar.


Budget: World in Conflict
World in Conflict (DirectX 10)
An incredibly detailed RTS game, World in Conflict allows you to look at your troops from a bird's eye view as well as zooming to street level to get hands on with the combat.  As you get closer, the game only looks better, as the scaling detail is incredible making this title an easy pick for DX10 benchmarking.





  




World in Conflict Test Settings




















Performance differences between Vista and Windows 7 are minimal here though again we see the AMD Radeon card clearly running past NVIDIA's GTS 250.


Budget: 3DMark Vantage


























There are no differences between performance with Windows Vista and Windows 7 but, yet again, the HD 4870 512MB card gets the clear victory.
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本帖最后由 yym 于 2009-4-16 10:34 编辑

Mid-range: Call of Duty: World at War

Call of Duty: World at War is a WWII-based shooter built on the Call of Duty 4 engine with a little flair added.  The game is unique in the genre as it sets the game at the Pacific stage rather than the much more common, and less controversial, European front.  










Call of Duty: World at War settings


For our testing with CoD: WaW we ran through the level of the game shown above while recording in FRAPS to get our frame rate comparisons below.  The game plays almost exactly like CoD 4 (a good thing) so our testing methods were reliable and repeatable.  



















We are now moving up a step in graphics card performance, and of course pricing.  With the GTX 260+ and the Radeon HD 4870 1GB cards the difference in performance between Vista and Windows 7 are basically nil and the GPU performance comparison takes a swing for NVIDIA as well.  Both GPUs perform similarly at 1600x1200 though as the resolution increases the GT200-based design from NVIDIA takes a performance lead.



Mid-range: Crysis
Crysis (DirectX 10)
Without a doubt the most breath taking game I have seen yet, Crysis is from the developers of Far Cry, yet another title that was ahead of its time.  This game will bring any system to its knees, but look good doing it.









  

Crysis Test Settings




















The AMD Radeon card here is coming in a bit slower than the NVIDIA offering in both Windows Vista and Windows 7 though what we see from the Catalyst 9.3 driver is a clear performance boost (about 7% at 1920x1200) moving from Vista to Win 7.

Mid-range: Far Cry 2
Far Cry 2 (DirectX 10)


Far Cry 2 is the spiritual sequel to one of the best selling and longest living games on the PC though this title was developed not by Crytek, but by Ubisoft directly using a completely new engine as well.  The game is set in Africa and you have malaria - what else do you need to know?








Far Cry 2 settings


Far Cry 2 includes a great benchmarking utility that allows us to setup for in-game testing of all varieties and includes both the ability to benchmark based on time (variable frame count) or based on speed (fixed frame count) - we went with the time-based option to simulate real-world gaming and allowing for apples-to-apples comparisons.  



















For NVIDIA, this Far Cry testing shows how much further behind the Windows 7 driver really is compared to AMD's Catalyst 9.3.  At 2048x1536 the NVIDIA GTX 260+ is about 30% slower on Windows 7 than Windows Vista though for the AMD card the difference between the two operating systems is basically zero.  At 2560x1600, both cards score worse in Windows 7 though I am putting that more towards the huge demand and variability of FC2 results on underpowered cards (for a given resolution).  So for Far Cry 2, in Windows Vista the NVIDIA card gets the win though in Windows 7, for now, AMD's Radeon HD 4870 1GB takes the crown.


Mid-range: Left 4 Dead
Left 4 Dead (DirectX 9)


Developed by a new team of Valve's, Left 4 Dead is a single or multi-player game that encompasses the most automatic story for a shooter: zombie apocalypse.  The team aspect of the title, based on Valve's Source engine, really makes this a unique gaming experience that I think all PC gamers should be required to play.








  Left 4 Dead settings


The Valve: Source engine supports in-game demos that can be played back as fast as possible (fixed frame count) or in real-time (variable frame count) to simulate a more real-world experience.  I chose the last stage of the Farm House "movie" and played through the cornfield section to get the majority of the level in the FRAPS run through.  



















While the NVIDIA GTX 260+ is the clear winner in terms of performance here in both Vista and Windows 7, the NVIDIA driver situation means that performance actually decreases in the operating system move while for AMD the results are 100% stable.


Mid-range: World in Conflict
World in Conflict (DirectX 10)
An incredibly detailed RTS game, World in Conflict allows you to look at your troops from a bird's eye view as well as zooming to street level to get hands on with the combat.  As you get closer, the game only looks better, as the scaling detail is incredible making this title an easy pick for DX10 benchmarking.





  




World in Conflict Test Settings




















Performance in World in Conflict remains stable for both NVIDIA and AMD between operating systems and the GTX 260+ takes the performance crown at this price point once again.


Mid-range: 3DMark Vantage


























As per our real-world gaming results, the NVIDIA GTX 260+ is the performance leader while the operating system makes little impact on the 3DMark Vantage results.
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High-end: Call of Duty: World at War

Call of Duty: World at War is a WWII-based shooter built on the Call of Duty 4 engine with a little flair added.  The game is unique in the genre as it sets the game at the Pacific stage rather than the much more common, and less controversial, European front.  










Call of Duty: World at War settings


For our testing with CoD: WaW we ran through the level of the game shown above while recording in FRAPS to get our frame rate comparisons below.  The game plays almost exactly like CoD 4 (a good thing) so our testing methods were reliable and repeatable.  



















As we get into the more expensive graphics cards, expectations are going to be higher.  Here we can see that the performance differences between Windows 7 and Windows Vista are minimal, both with the NVIDIA and AMD driver offerings.  In terms of GPU versus GPU performance, the AMD card at first appears to be the bigger winner when look at just the average frame rate, however, looking at the minimum frame rate the HD 4870 X2 is clearly taking a big hit.  The line graphs above clearly show where that is taking place.

What is interesting about that spot is that in the game, we see a "slow down" of time AND frame rate and then a "fast mode" as the game basically catches up with what should really be going on at the time.  Audio isn't affected - it plays at the correct speed the entire time.  I think what we are seeing is a bug with CrossFire in general as it happened on BOTH Vista and Windows 7.



High-end: Crysis
Crysis (DirectX 10)
Without a doubt the most breath taking game I have seen yet, Crysis is from the developers of Far Cry, yet another title that was ahead of its time.  This game will bring any system to its knees, but look good doing it.









  

Crysis Test Settings




















Crysis again shows little difference between Vista and Windows 7 in terms of same-GPU performance though in our Radeon HD 4970 X2 2GB results it looks like the minimum frame rate is regularly lower on Windows 7 than Vista.  Overall though, the Radeon offering does give us a better overall gaming experience though it does have one clear spot where the minimum frame rate falls below that of the NVIDIA GTX 285 card.  


High-end: Far Cry 2
Far Cry 2 (DirectX 10)


Far Cry 2 is the spiritual sequel to one of the best selling and longest living games on the PC though this title was developed not by Crytek, but by Ubisoft directly using a completely new engine as well.  The game is set in Africa and you have malaria - what else do you need to know?








Far Cry 2 settings


Far Cry 2 includes a great benchmarking utility that allows us to setup for in-game testing of all varieties and includes both the ability to benchmark based on time (variable frame count) or based on speed (fixed frame count) - we went with the time-based option to simulate real-world gaming and allowing for apples-to-apples comparisons.  



















Far Cry 2 again gives us some interesting results to evaluate.  First, when we look at the NVIDIA GeForce GTX 285 we can clearly see that the Windows 7 driver is well behind the Windows Vista driver.  The AMD driver is actually faster on Windows 7 than on Windows Vista - a good sign for the future of the OS when similar driver branches are used.  The exception is at 2560x1600 where the pure weight of the graphics engine is apparently too much to bear.

When we look at GPU to GPU results, the AMD Radeon HD 4870 X2 is clearly the better performer in Far Cry 2 in both Windows Vista and Windows 7.  


High-end: Left 4 Dead
Left 4 Dead (DirectX 9)


Developed by a new team of Valve's, Left 4 Dead is a single or multi-player game that encompasses the most automatic story for a shooter: zombie apocalypse.  The team aspect of the title, based on Valve's Source engine, really makes this a unique gaming experience that I think all PC gamers should be required to play.








  Left 4 Dead settings


The Valve: Source engine supports in-game demos that can be played back as fast as possible (fixed frame count) or in real-time (variable frame count) to simulate a more real-world experience.  I chose the last stage of the Farm House "movie" and played through the cornfield section to get the majority of the level in the FRAPS run through.  



















While we see a slight decrease in overall performance for the NVIDIA GTX 285 card in Windows 7 versus Vista, the AMD 4870 X2 card with the Catalyst 9.3 driver has equal performance in both.  Overall performance is moderately better with the HD 4870 X2 card though honestly, even at 2560x1600, the GTX 285 has more than enough graphics horsepower.  


High-end: World in Conflict
World in Conflict (DirectX 10)
An incredibly detailed RTS game, World in Conflict allows you to look at your troops from a bird's eye view as well as zooming to street level to get hands on with the combat.  As you get closer, the game only looks better, as the scaling detail is incredible making this title an easy pick for DX10 benchmarking.





  




World in Conflict Test Settings




















Performance between the two Windows OS revisions is pretty much a dead heat and again the HD 4870 X2 graphics card proves to be the better performer for a bit higher cost.


High-end: 3DMark Vantage


























Again, no differences between the results in Windows Vista and Windows 7 worth mentioning and again the HD 4870 X2 has better results.  Not much to see here.
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本帖最后由 yym 于 2009-4-16 10:40 编辑

MAX: Call of Duty: World at War

Call of Duty: World at War is a WWII-based shooter built on the Call of Duty 4 engine with a little flair added.  The game is unique in the genre as it sets the game at the Pacific stage rather than the much more common, and less controversial, European front.  










Call of Duty: World at War settings


For our testing with CoD: WaW we ran through the level of the game shown above while recording in FRAPS to get our frame rate comparisons below.  The game plays almost exactly like CoD 4 (a good thing) so our testing methods were reliable and repeatable.  



















Here we are going to compare the fastest GPU options from both NVIDIA and AMD at this writing - so that means a repeat of the HD 4870 X2 2GB card from AMD while we replace the GTX 285 with the dual-GPU based GTX 295 1.8GB graphics board.  Our first results show that the differences in operating system produce nearly no changes in performance with this particular gaming title.  We can also clearly see that the NVIDIA GTX 295 is far and away the best performing card with a higher average frame rate and a MUCH higher minimum FPS at all resolutions.  


MAX: Crysis
Crysis (DirectX 10)
Without a doubt the most breath taking game I have seen yet, Crysis is from the developers of Far Cry, yet another title that was ahead of its time.  This game will bring any system to its knees, but look good doing it.









  

Crysis Test Settings




















Once again Windows Vista and Windows 7 performance is neck and neck and the GTX 295 clearly wins out in overall performance.



MAX: Far Cry 2
Far Cry 2 (DirectX 10)


Far Cry 2 is the spiritual sequel to one of the best selling and longest living games on the PC though this title was developed not by Crytek, but by Ubisoft directly using a completely new engine as well.  The game is set in Africa and you have malaria - what else do you need to know?








Far Cry 2 settings


Far Cry 2 includes a great benchmarking utility that allows us to setup for in-game testing of all varieties and includes both the ability to benchmark based on time (variable frame count) or based on speed (fixed frame count) - we went with the time-based option to simulate real-world gaming and allowing for apples-to-apples comparisons.  



















Far Cry 2 again presents us with the most interesting scenario for Windows 7 gaming performance; because of the different branches in NVIDIA's two drivers, the GTX 295 goes from a clear victory in Windows Vista to a defeat under Windows 7 for TODAY'S performance.  However, that being said, I am 99.99% sure that NVIDIA will make up for this difference in their next driver release to at least match current Vista speeds.  


MAX: Left 4 Dead
Left 4 Dead (DirectX 9)


Developed by a new team of Valve's, Left 4 Dead is a single or multi-player game that encompasses the most automatic story for a shooter: zombie apocalypse.  The team aspect of the title, based on Valve's Source engine, really makes this a unique gaming experience that I think all PC gamers should be required to play.








  Left 4 Dead settings


The Valve: Source engine supports in-game demos that can be played back as fast as possible (fixed frame count) or in real-time (variable frame count) to simulate a more real-world experience.  I chose the last stage of the Farm House "movie" and played through the cornfield section to get the majority of the level in the FRAPS run through.  



















While see a slight drop in the Windows 7 performance for NVIDIA's GTX 295 card, the differences are minute compared to the performance you get with that card in this game.  When comparing the GTX 295 to the HD 4870 X2, the GTX 295 is clearly the winner (though at 1600x1200 it's a wash) as the damn thing can push over 120 FPS average at 2560x1600!



MAX: World in Conflict
World in Conflict (DirectX 10)
An incredibly detailed RTS game, World in Conflict allows you to look at your troops from a bird's eye view as well as zooming to street level to get hands on with the combat.  As you get closer, the game only looks better, as the scaling detail is incredible making this title an easy pick for DX10 benchmarking.





  




World in Conflict Test Settings




















Differences between the two Windows operating systems remain small here, and as the resolution increases it would appear that the HD 4870 X2 and the GTX 295 scores merge closer and closer together.  Keep in mind though how much higher the minimum frame rate is for the NVIDIA offering versus that of AMD's card and you can see that GT200-based design wins out.


MAX: 3DMark Vantage


























3DMark Vantage results clearly show the GTX 295 with the performance edge and little to no changes in the benchmark between Windows Vista and Windows 7.
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本帖最后由 yym 于 2009-4-16 10:44 编辑

Power Consumption
Our power consumption results are again broken up into the four sub-sections we used for our gaming benchmarks: budget, mid-range, high-end and MAX.  




The GeForce GTS 250 is a much lower consumer of power at idle (over 50 watts) though at load that difference shrinks down to about 35 watts or so.  Obviously, because the HD 4870 512MB was the better performer in our gaming results, this added power consumption is more or less expected, all things being equal.




The GTX 260+ does indeed use less power at idle than the HD 4870 1GB cards though we are seeing a notable increase in idle power consumption under Windows 7.  Does this indicate some change in the way Windows 7 works?  Most likely not; instead I would wager that the driver for Windows 7 isn't putting the GPU into a lower enough power mode to see the same drop as we are getting with the Vista drive.  




Interestingly, the power consumption difference between Vista and Windows 7 on the NVIDIA side of things is even larger here: 36 watts to be exact.  As for the AMD card, it is clearly use a LOT more power at both idle and under a full load than the GTX 285 though performance differences between the two cards are not as great as these power results would lead us to believe.  The slightly less efficient use of CrossFire multi-GPU technology, as opposed to the GTX 285 that is a single GPU, is obviously the root.




Again, we see an idle power consumption difference between the NVIDIA card on Windows Vista and Windows 7; what might be more impressive is the lower power consumption the card sees under a full load when compared to the HD 4870 X2.  Considering how much faster the GTX 295 was in a lot of our benchmarks, this is impressive efficiency and performance per watt.


Analysis and ConclusionsReaders coming in to the article on this page: thanks for reading!  But keep in mind you are coming in at page 28 of a 28 page article.  If you want the information on the reasons for the article, issues at hand and setup, head back to page 1.

Wow, that is a LOT of data we just went though; this is likely the longest article we have posted here at PC Perspective and I can tell you that while we are looking forward to updating it as Windows 7 develops, we are going to try to find a more concise way to display the results.  :)  But now let's speed some time and discuss all the benchmarks we saw over the last 25 pages...

AMD versus NVIDIA Windows Vista Performance

Even though this article really focuses on Windows 7 performance and its relation to GPUs and Vista, we couldn't help but look at all the data we gathered for the article and NOT draw some conclusions about NVIDIA and AMD graphics card offerings that you can buy and install on a retail OS TODAY.  

Breaking down the results by price segments, let's see how either side fared.  For the level I called "budget" for this article, GPUs selling for about $120-130 as of this writing, AMD definitely has the upper hand.  The Radeon HD 4870 512MB cards beat out the performance of the "new" GeForce GTS 250 1GB in nearly all of our benchmarks.  Even though you might find the HD 4870 512MB to cost you $5-10 more at various online stores, I would still give my recommendation to it over NVIDIA's offering.



At the "mid-range" level (ranging from $170-200 or so) we have the GeForce GTX 260+ and the Radeon HD 4870 1GB cards; and this is a much closer match up.  In the end though, the GTX 260+ is the clear performance leader in Windows Vista in this comparison as the move from the G92 architecture that the GTS 250 uses to the GT200-based design on the GTX 260+ (and original GTX 260) reaps big rewards.  Simply adding 512MB of additional memory to the Radeon HD 4870 design didn't do enough for AMD to keep up here.

Looking at the "high-end" results the comparison is a bit more lopsided due to pricing mismatches: the NVIDIA GeForce GTX 285 sells for about $330 or so while the Radeon HD 4870 X2 sells for $380 in some places.  Also keep in mind that the GTX 285 is a single-GPU card while the HD 4870 X2 uses a pair of RV770 GPUs.  In most cases, the HD 4870 X2 was indeed the better overall performer but there were some cases where the minimum frame rate of the GTX 285 was better and thus would get our nod for an overall higher quality experience.  Also, there is that price difference of course...

Finally, looking at the "max" results between the HD 4870 X2 and the GeForce GTX 295 dual-GPU card priced around $509, the GTX 295 was the obvious winner in every test.  With an added cost of $130 or more over the 4870 X2 though, we expected no less.

AMD versus NVIDIA Windows 7 Performance

After days and days of testing, the results are actually LESS exciting than I'd hoped they would be; but I think in the end that is a good thing.  Performance for all seven graphics cards we tested was at least CLOSE when comparing Windows 7 and Windows Vista results.  In a few cases, especially with Far Cry 2, the NVIDIA driver you can download today is simply not up to the quality we expected from the GeForce-giant.  Even in other games, where the average frame rate would only drop 5% or less, the difference was notable at least to us in graphs if not in real-world experiences.


What you will likely be seeing on your next gaming PC...


AMD should be commended for being the first to have a combined driver for Vista and Windows 7.  Performance on AMD cards was greater than or equal to Vista when playing on Windows 7 with only one exception: Far Cry 2 at 2560x1600.  We'll be keeping an eye on that for you.

Other that those changes, the differences in performance between Windows Vista and Windows 7, on a comparative basis between NVIDIA and AMD, are not notable enough to change our recommendations based on price that we noted above in the Windows Vista discussion.  For example, even though with today's driver the GTX 260+ 896MB card sees slightly performance drops in Windows 7 rather than slight gains with the HD 4870 1GB, I still feel that the GeForce GTX 260+ makes the better choice for a GPU purchase today.  

Windows 7 versus Windows Vista Gaming Performance

As I mentioned on the one of the first pages of this article (that was a LOONG time ago...) the only fair comparison for looking at pure Vista versus Windows 7 gaming results is with AMD's graphics cards and their unified Catalyst 9.3 driver that supports both operating systems.  To that end, the AMD situation showed us that users will likely see very modest performance gains moving over from a Windows Vista gaming system to a Windows 7-based PC.  Considering how early we are into the life of Windows 7 (it is still in beta after all), this is a very welcome shift from how things worked before Windows Vista's release.  In fact, there are still some gamers that are likely refusing to move to Vista because of apparent performance degradation compared to Windows XP.  (Those differences are long gone now, btw.)  





In January of 2007 I posted an article that looked at performance of gaming on a beta version of Windows Vista and the results were not very good.  I know that all of us, the game developers, driver programmers, hardware vendors and enthusiast community are glad to see that Windows 7 looks to be shaping up as a much more pleasant transition.

Windows 7 Stability and Usage, Miscellaneous Notes

I already got asked a few questions about using Windows 7 while I was finishing up writing this article so I just thought I would leave a little note in here about my very good experience with the new OS.  Game installations and driver installations went very smoothly on Windows 7 and I didn't have to adjust anything to get up and running that I wasn't already accustomed to with Vista or XP.  Only one title even seemed to notice the change: Far Cry 2 instructed me that it had better performance with Service Pack 1.  Obviously it was confused as to which OS I was actually running at that point and that MIGHT have something to do with the 2560x1600 performance issues I saw.  

Other than that, using Windows 7 was terrific - fast, reliable (only one crash during a game resolution change over 378 tests) and nice to look at as well.

I will offer one note, that doesn't apply to just Windows 7, but Vista as well: game loading times with the AMD graphics cards and Catalyst 9.3 driver were much, much higher than those with any NVIDIA GPU and associated driver.  As an example, our Call of Duty: World at War save game would load in about 12-15 seconds with NVIDIA's cards but that same load time took 30+ seconds with AMD configurations.  

Pricing and Availability

All of these cards we used in our article today are readily available as of this writing and we already basically went over pricing above as well.  But here is a nice summation of cards and pricing segments, with my picks for each in bold.
Okay, I cheated on the GTX 285 and HD 4870 X2 debate because if money might be an issue, then the GTX 285 is fast enough for almost anyone.  But if you can spare the extra cash then the HD 4870 X2 will likely be faster at those really high resolutions now and into the future.

Final Thoughts

Overall, I am very impressed with what Microsoft has done with Windows 7 and gaming performance.  Unlike the previous OS transition that caused a lot of headaches due to the driver model change, Windows 7 seems to be not only keeping up with Vista but actually out performing it when pitted head to head.  Both NVIDIA and AMD seem to be taking a proactive stance with Windows 7 support as well but it is AMD that is first out of the gate with a unified driver package and a promise to continue Windows 7 driver development on a monthly basis.  Gamers with AMD graphics cards will love to hear that they can now safely try out Windows 7 on their gaming machine without losing a drop of performance.  

As I said earlier, expect to see much more  in regards to Windows 7 performance; not only for gaming but for storage, applications, chipsets and more.
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结果你??
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二百五真是神卡啊
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新的时代开始了!
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E文的看不懂
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我是中国人!
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最后的想法

总体而言,我非常深刻的印象,微软已经在Windows 7和游戏性能。与以前操作系统过渡,造成了很多麻烦,由于司机模型改变时, Windows 7似乎不仅跟上Vista的,但实际上它的表现时,进站头对头。 NVIDIA和AMD都似乎是采取积极主动的姿态与Windows 7支持以及但它是AMD首先是走出门的统一驱动程序包,并许诺将继续的Windows 7驱动开发按月。玩家与AMD显卡将非常乐意倾听,他们现在可以安全地尝试了Windows 7就其游戏机而又不降低性能。

正如我前面所说,希望看到更多的关于到Windows 7性能;不仅是游戏,但存储,应用软件,芯片等。
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最后的看法

总的来说,我对微软已经处理好windows7和游戏性能留下了好印象。与之前的操作系统更替(xp->vista)过程中由于驱动模式的改变造成的麻烦相比,windows7的性能与vista不相上下甚至超出。N和A似乎都积极支持w7,但A率先放出了统一驱动包并承诺继续每月1次的速度开发更新驱动。A fan 应该很高兴的听到现在你们就可以在玩游戏的pc上尝试W7而不用担心性能下降。
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A卡用户  好消息阿~~~~~~
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太长了啊,就算看懂也费劲啊
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A卡支持上更积极啊
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没有最新的275和4890,这个帖子不够新啊
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貌似A卡都不错的样子。
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