【N粉狂欢】GK114 is coming

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The first few scraps of information about Nvidia’s Maxwell generation are coming out, and they have some really serious implications. The news itself is not that earth shattering, but it brings sharper focus to TSMC’s 20nm process.
First the news. Maxwell is the generation of Nvidia GPUs following the current Keplers, and Kepler still has a refresh called GK114 coming out in the spring of 2013. Maxwell is due after that, historically a fall schedule in Q4/2013, but current release schedules seem to indicate that the entire industry has slipped to spring releases. That means Q1/2014 is much more likely as a release date.

So what’s the news? Nvidia is internally hoping for an 80% performance increase, said to be performance per watt. While this seems a bit unlikely, especially in light of the claims for GK114 vs where it ended up, at least you know the range they are aiming for. The more interesting news is that the initial Maxwell parts will be made on TSMC’s 28nm process, not 20nm as is widely rumored.

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What is going on with Nvidia’s GK114?

Since we told you about AMD’s Sea Islands yesterday, what’s new on the Nvidia side? Just like AMD, the short answer is not much.

SemiAccurate’s sources have used two names for the ‘big’ gaming GPU, GK114 and GK114-GX. Given how similar the naming is, we wouldn’t count out GX114 either. For the sake of sanity, we will refer to it as GK114 until we get better documentation. Like AMD, it will be late, not much of an advance, and have everything dictated by process limits.

GK114 is currently slated for March “best case”, but given Nvidia’s track record of late that may be very optimistic. Sources who have been briefed on the GPU say that Nvidia is really hedging on mass availability, so April or May is much more likely.

Like AMD, Nvidia is also putting out a minor update to the GK104, not that it is a bad starting point. On the performance side, Nvidia is also power and size bound, but a bit less so than AMD, but the numbers line up pretty closely. They are promising those who have been briefed the same +15% increase that AMD is.

`The one open question is, has Nvidia solved their process woes? The answer to that question is almost assuredly no since Nvidia still has not addressed the core problem causing all of the issues. That said they will likely make a lot of progress, or at least TSMC will and it will benefit Nvidia as well. This will most likely ease capacity problems by having fewer defective dies, but that will be a minor effect.

In the end, GK114 will remain about level with AMD’s Sea Islands. Both are bound by the same process limits, and both are contained by costs. In the end, this round is going to be a yawner, if not the last hurrah for GPUs in general.

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Xenomorph

GK114应该是用来和RV1140纠缠的……

lvbinandylau

就过了英语四级啊，看不懂啊
谁给翻译一下

Xenomorph

lvbinandylau 发表于 2012-12-10 13:47
就过了英语四级啊，看不懂啊
谁给翻译一下

Charlie Dermerjian如是说：2013年的春季会有GK114，而Maxwell更可能在2014年的第一季度发布，并且会用TSMC 28nm……

lvbinandylau

Xenomorph 发表于 2012-12-10 13:49
Charlie Dermerjian如是说：2013年的春季会有GK114，而Maxwell更可能在2014年的第一季度发布，并且会用TS ...

哦，酱紫啊。原来中文真是博大精深，一句话就把洋洋洒洒几千洋文给翻了。

Xenomorph

lvbinandylau 发表于 2012-12-10 13:53
哦，酱紫啊。原来中文真是博大精深，一句话就把洋洋洒洒几千洋文给翻了。

那一大段文字肯定不止这么少意思。但是她说了很多大家已经知道的或者一些不必要的感叹，去除以后有意义的新资讯就这么点……

flhssnake

Xenomorph 发表于 2012-12-10 13:57
那一大段文字肯定不止这么少意思。但是她说了很多大家已经知道的或者一些不必要的感叹，去除以后有意义的 ...

星猫妹子 这消息可靠吗？

Xenomorph

flhssnake 发表于 2012-12-10 14:14
星猫妹子 这消息可靠吗？

不知道……早期Maxwell采用28nm是很有可能的，但是2013春季就可以出来的在下更倾向于GK110……

flhssnake

Xenomorph 发表于 2012-12-10 14:18
不知道……早期Maxwell采用28nm是很有可能的，但是2013春季就可以出来的在下更倾向于GK110……

喵  你跟1950联系上了吗？  

Xenomorph

flhssnake 发表于 2012-12-10 14:24
喵  你跟1950联系上了吗？

没有……

BDFMK2

G70 发表于 2012-12-10 14:40
转charlie的消息，遭打脸了又拿charlie的脸出来挡

谁打谁？你这档次的人左一句打、右一句脸，跟同为极品N粉的collab等人一个德行，我看你是从小被打脸长大的吧，这里可不是填补你心理阴影的地方，小盆友！

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Xenomorph 发表于 2012-12-10 13:45
GK114应该是用来和RV1140纠缠的……

应该是RV1170吧。1140只比7770强一点而已

aibo

28nmNV就差一个大家伙。让后就是慢慢降价。

指望GK11X能有啥变化是不可能的。

cbr250xc

农企不给力，gk110出了专业卡，民用的 一直藏着。真是可恨。

jhj9

GK110早就是现成的，不拿出来做Geforce才是怪事了

Xenomorph

BDFMK2 发表于 2012-12-10 14:54
应该是RV1170吧。1140只比7770强一点而已

您还记得Barts是怎么以合理的规模实现尽量接近Cypress性能的？RV1140的性能应该和Tahiti类似。而RV1130主要是要保持和下一代APU内核GPU有足够的性能差距。现在所说RV1170只有40CU，是假消息……

5毛党

农企不行了，马上倒闭了，英伟达一统江湖
不过么，这样对玩家来说不是个好消息，这不，农企还没倒闭呢，英伟达桌面级旗舰就不出了，而且原本中端变高端卖，坑爹啊