HardOCP 爆 AMD 要求（asking）测试中不得在评测中使用 HAWX 2 preview benchmark

Edison · 发表于 2010-10-20 23:11

http://www.hardocp.com/news/2010/10/20/benchmark_wars/

You guys know we 【请注意文明用词】canned benchmarks years ago because we found those unreliable as indicators of gaming performance and GPU cross-comparisons. While we have moved on, the GPU companies have not. Yesterday we got an email from NVIDIA about a new H.A.W.X. 2 benchmark and the company encouraged us to use it on upcoming reviews. Today we got an email from AMD asking us not to use it on upcoming products.

It has come to our attention that you may have received an early build of a benchmark based on the upcoming Ubisoft title H.A.W.X. 2. I'm sure you are fully aware that the timing of this benchmark is not coincidental and is an attempt by our competitor to negatively influence your reviews of the AMD Radeon™ HD 6800 series products. We suggest you do not use this benchmark at present as it has known issues with its implementation of DirectX® 11 tessellation and does not serve as a useful indicator of performance for the AMD Radeon™ HD 6800 series. A quick comparison of the performance data in H.A.W.X. 2, with tessellation on, and that of other games/benchmarks will demonstrate how unrepresentative H.A.W.X. 2 performance is of real world performance.

AMD has demonstrated to Ubisoft tessellation performance improvements that benefit all GPUs, but the developer has chosen not to implement them in the preview benchmark. For that reason, we are working on a driver-based solution in time for the final release of the game that improves performance without sacrificing image quality. In the meantime we recommend you hold off using the benchmark as it will not provide a useful measure of performance relative to other DirectX® 11 games using tessellation.

That last paragraph is fairly damning in my opinion and it raises some big questions. Is Ubisoft in NVIDIA's pocket and pushing technology while ignoring the company with the largest DX11 market share? Is NVIDIA pushing a benchmark of a yet-to-be released game that is somewhat broken on its competitors cards? We know NVIDIA's current GPU has more Tessellation power than AMD's latest, but we have yet to see it make a difference in anything besides a benchmark. I think this shows NVIDIA grasping at straws and I don't think it has anything up its sleeve that AMD does not already have as well; like refinements in TSMC's 40nm process.

qc8241 · 发表于 2010-10-20 23:13

回复 1# Edison

请E大解答为什么。。。。。。

saga1974 · 发表于 2010-10-20 23:13

我就看看，我不说话

Edison · 发表于 2010-10-20 23:13

AMD 还没 ready 好：
we are working on a driver-based solution in time for the final release of the game that improves performance without sacrificing image quality.

越光宝盒 · 发表于 2010-10-20 23:15

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qc8241 · 发表于 2010-10-20 23:17

枪响了。。。。。鞋还没穿好。。。基本就这意思

Sirlion · 发表于 2010-10-20 23:18

驱动可解决？

goldman948 · 发表于 2010-10-20 23:25

ts不长进怎么遮都没用的

huanghuooo · 发表于 2010-10-20 23:26

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EveningRain · 发表于 2010-10-20 23:30

管理员也逃不过屏蔽词啊

Edison · 发表于 2010-10-20 23:32

驱动可解决？
Sirlion 发表于 2010-10-20 23:18

可能是有一个办法让 Tessellation Factor 上限约束到 16 pixel per triangle。

vipk · 发表于 2010-10-20 23:33

这玩意AMD不说也没人会测吧

WG_Baby · 发表于 2010-10-20 23:34

AMD比我晚幾個月發現A卡測工具非常不好呀，A卡的優勢全在遊戲實測里

Sirlion · 发表于 2010-10-20 23:41

回复 11# Edison

这是原因么？

所以amd表示“过于强力而纯粹的细分曲面是一种浪费”…………

ssking · 发表于 2010-10-20 23:46

HAWX 2 preview benchmark

哪有下.......

Edison · 发表于 2010-10-20 23:47

AMD比我晚幾個月發現A卡測工具非常不好呀，A卡的優勢全在遊戲實測里
WG_Baby 发表于 2010-10-20 23:34

任何卡无论优势还是劣势都会在游戏中不同程度的表现，而为了确知其中可能的关键因素就有必要使用底层测试软件。

这里的 HAWX 2 benchmark 实际上会集成到正式零售的游戏中，就如同 Lost Planet 2 一样。

使用 Fraps 虽然不错，但是在精确性方面还是不够游戏内建的 benchmark 可靠。

WG_Baby · 发表于 2010-10-20 23:53

任何卡无论优势还是劣势都会在游戏中不同程度的表现，而为了确知其中可能的关键因素就有必要使用底层测 ...
Edison 发表于 2010-10-20 23:47

其實控制精確性也要經驗的，首先就是記錄時間足夠長，然後是連續跑3次取平均值，這樣得到的精確度就可以在99%以上了，剩下的問題都是個人操作能力和鏡頭控制的好不好了

個人不反對也不建議工具，但是工具可以簡單的做完測試，比複雜的精確記錄提供比較一般的客觀事實吧

chtknight3 · 发表于 2010-10-20 23:54

任何卡无论优势还是劣势都会在游戏中不同程度的表现，而为了确知其中可能的关键因素就有必要使用底层测 ...
Edison 发表于 2010-10-20 23:47

象farcry2 内建的一样可靠吗？

chinayyj · 发表于 2010-10-20 23:55

没有期望过6850。

Edison · 发表于 2010-10-20 23:55

其實控制精確性也要經驗的，首先就是記錄時間足夠長，然後是連續跑3次取平均值，這樣得到的精確度 ...
WG_Baby 发表于 2010-10-20 23:53

以 HAWX 这类参照物非常难以把握的游戏为例，我不相信你能做到 99% 的画面精确性。

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